[SUC] UFOS Digest, Vol 33, Issue 15

Tue Apr 29 04:37:14 EDT 2008

Bravo Vu! You are awesome!

I suggest that every Saturday after training a rules session is scheduled where the trainers will DISCUSS AND DEMONSTRATE 3 or 5 rules from the rule book to the players. 

After discussing and demonstrating the rules, players can ask questions or clarify the meaning of the rule. There's nothing like a discussion to make the rules stick in our heads.

I suggest too that senior SUC members (our rule experts - Aaron, David, Tino?) be on hand to discuss the rules with SUC and RUC members. Some rules need clarification from experienced and knowledgeable players. 

This is a great step guys. I totally agree that a knowledge of the rules is necessary for making everyone a more complete ultimate player. 

At the very least it will prevent us from looking totally ignorant when calls are made on the field. It is always better to be able to hold your own when questions about rules arise. 

All players should know the rules not just the captains. 

I am with you on this Vu. Count me in. 

Anne 

PS
And yes I hope someone can step up and translate the rules to Vietnamese. Any volunteers?

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: "READ THE RULES" campaign (Tuan, Do Anh)
   2. Re: "READ THE RULES" campaign (Dung, Tran Hoang)
   3. Re: "READ THE RULES" campaign (Trinh, Tran Thi Ngoc)
   4. Re: "READ THE RULES" campaign + Olympic torch beers
      (Jon Dillingham)
   5. Re: "READ THE RULES" campaign + Olympic torch beers
      (Lester Sualog)
   6. Re: "READ THE RULES" campaign (Vinh, Cu Truong)

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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 11:10:09 +0700
From: "Tuan, Do Anh" 
Subject: Re: [SUC] "READ THE RULES" campaign
To: "Nguyen Vu" , 
Message-ID:
 <38A94108DF54E64BA0AC3DAF426D660802C7D3 at SGS-MW-S02.rmit.edu.vn>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Count me in....

Tuan, Do Anh

Mobile: 0918384930
Email: s3119342 at rmit.edu.vn

-----Original Message-----
From: ufos-bounces at saigon-ultimate.com on behalf of Nguyen Vu
Sent: Mon 4/28/2008 10:46 PM
To: ufos at saigon-ultimate.com
Subject: [SUC] "READ THE RULES" campaign

Hi RUC, SUC n HUC!

  After the mini-tournament and the Spring league, I recognize that there are a few of ppl know the rules(excl. me) and arguments, conflicts definitely are the consequences. Am pretty sure that the most of students and some VNamese guys wont read it untill it is translated into Vietnamese, the words are so complicated I guess. I come up with an idea and I'd like to question and answer my own, hope u guys dont mind:

  Q: WHY DONT YOU READ THE RULES ?
  A: too long, too complicated, I dont understand even a word, etc....

  Q: WHY DONT WE TRANSLATE IT INTO VIETNAMESE ?
  A: Ahhh yeahhh,ummmmm, I dont know why so far, but why not ....

  Q: HOW DO WE DO THAT ?
  A: As u might know, beyond the skill, the knowledge is also the main weapon to win a game. My POV, we deploy a campaign called "Read the rules" which encourge people who are really interested in developing their knowledge. I mean "the campaign" because it needs timeline, deadline, task assignment, responsibility sharing, experience sharing, etc......

  ?????????????     WHAT DO YOU SAY  ??????????????

  I am sick and tired of being told "Read the rules", I'd like to say "READ THE RULES". If any of you are interested in this campaign, pls response your name, email address, fone no and "READ THE RULES". We"ll get back to you after gathering enough ppl. 

  Of course, I am the first one:

  READ THE RULES
  Name: Truong Nguyen Vu  "Vu Tattoo"
  Email: heroboyus2002 at yahoo.com
  Fone: 09 85 51 51 85

  P/S: I do appologize to ppl whom think this mail is annoying. 

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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 11:10:12 +0700
From: "Dung, Tran Hoang" 
Subject: Re: [SUC] "READ THE RULES" campaign
To: "Nguyen Vu" , 
Message-ID:
 <38A94108DF54E64BA0AC3DAF426D6608B2C9CF at SGS-MW-S02.rmit.edu.vn>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

"READ THE RULES"
why not Mr Vu
fone 0938813138

-----Original Message-----
From: ufos-bounces at saigon-ultimate.com on behalf of Nguyen Vu
Sent: Mon 4/28/2008 10:46 PM
To: ufos at saigon-ultimate.com
Subject: [SUC] "READ THE RULES" campaign

Hi RUC, SUC n HUC!

  After the mini-tournament and the Spring league, I recognize that there are a few of ppl know the rules(excl. me) and arguments, conflicts definitely are the consequences. Am pretty sure that the most of students and some VNamese guys wont read it untill it is translated into Vietnamese, the words are so complicated I guess. I come up with an idea and I'd like to question and answer my own, hope u guys dont mind:

  Q: WHY DONT YOU READ THE RULES ?
  A: too long, too complicated, I dont understand even a word, etc....

  Q: WHY DONT WE TRANSLATE IT INTO VIETNAMESE ?
  A: Ahhh yeahhh,ummmmm, I dont know why so far, but why not ....

  Q: HOW DO WE DO THAT ?
  A: As u might know, beyond the skill, the knowledge is also the main weapon to win a game. My POV, we deploy a campaign called "Read the rules" which encourge people who are really interested in developing their knowledge. I mean "the campaign" because it needs timeline, deadline, task assignment, responsibility sharing, experience sharing, etc......

  ?????????????     WHAT DO YOU SAY  ??????????????

  I am sick and tired of being told "Read the rules", I'd like to say "READ THE RULES". If any of you are interested in this campaign, pls response your name, email address, fone no and "READ THE RULES". We"ll get back to you after gathering enough ppl. 

  Of course, I am the first one:

  READ THE RULES
  Name: Truong Nguyen Vu  "Vu Tattoo"
  Email: heroboyus2002 at yahoo.com
  Fone: 09 85 51 51 85

  P/S: I do appologize to ppl whom think this mail is annoying. 

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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 12:29:51 +0700
From: "Trinh, Tran Thi Ngoc" 
Subject: Re: [SUC] "READ THE RULES" campaign
To: "Nguyen Vu" , 
Message-ID:
 <38A94108DF54E64BA0AC3DAF426D6608010AA464 at SGS-MW-S02.rmit.edu.vn>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Many members of RUC are willing to join this campaign and I'm a member of RUC....so count me in with others.^^

TRINH, TRAN THI NGOC 

Student of Bachelor of Commerce (Sem 4)
RMIT International University Vietnam 
Saigon South Campus 
Email Address : s3160914 at rmit.edu.vn 
Cell Phone : 0909.599.505

-----Original Message-----
From: ufos-bounces at saigon-ultimate.com on behalf of Nguyen Vu
Sent: Mon 4/28/2008 10:46 PM
To: ufos at saigon-ultimate.com
Subject: [SUC] "READ THE RULES" campaign

Hi RUC, SUC n HUC!

  After the mini-tournament and the Spring league, I recognize that there are a few of ppl know the rules(excl. me) and arguments, conflicts definitely are the consequences. Am pretty sure that the most of students and some VNamese guys wont read it untill it is translated into Vietnamese, the words are so complicated I guess. I come up with an idea and I'd like to question and answer my own, hope u guys dont mind:

  Q: WHY DONT YOU READ THE RULES ?
  A: too long, too complicated, I dont understand even a word, etc....

  Q: WHY DONT WE TRANSLATE IT INTO VIETNAMESE ?
  A: Ahhh yeahhh,ummmmm, I dont know why so far, but why not ....

  Q: HOW DO WE DO THAT ?
  A: As u might know, beyond the skill, the knowledge is also the main weapon to win a game. My POV, we deploy a campaign called "Read the rules" which encourge people who are really interested in developing their knowledge. I mean "the campaign" because it needs timeline, deadline, task assignment, responsibility sharing, experience sharing, etc......

  ?????????????     WHAT DO YOU SAY  ??????????????

  I am sick and tired of being told "Read the rules", I'd like to say "READ THE RULES". If any of you are interested in this campaign, pls response your name, email address, fone no and "READ THE RULES". We"ll get back to you after gathering enough ppl. 

  Of course, I am the first one:

  READ THE RULES
  Name: Truong Nguyen Vu  "Vu Tattoo"
  Email: heroboyus2002 at yahoo.com
  Fone: 09 85 51 51 85

  P/S: I do appologize to ppl whom think this mail is annoying. 

---------------------------------
Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile.  Try it now.

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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 13:17:01 +0700
From: "Jon Dillingham" 
Subject: Re: [SUC] "READ THE RULES" campaign + Olympic torch beers
To: "Lester Sualog" 
Cc: "ufos-bounces at saigon-ultimate.com "
 , Nguyen Vu
 , "ufos at saigon-ultimate.com "

Message-ID:
 <31069ef10804282317v6e59b18dx21c07ab90ce03af5 at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

how do you know the torch will pass by there? everyone says the route is a
secret

is anyone really going to wear Tibet shirts?

On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 9:55 AM, Lester Sualog 
wrote:

> Good one Vu! I'm all for this.
> FYI below --
>
> There are two major types of governing rules if you play on grass/ turf:
> 1. UPA rules - we are now on the 11th edition. This is a must read if you
> play in the international invitational team or hat tournaments (i.e.
> including the Singapore tourney).
> 2. WFDF rules - memorize or die, but only if you play at Worlds.
>
> There is also one official governing set of rules if you play on the
> beach:
> 1. BULA rules - get into this if you go to Boracay, Paganello, World
> Beach,
> etc.
>
> By the way, did the SUC form an information/ education unit already during
> the Black Cat dinner meeting some ages ago? They should get on top of this
> to do the translation and plan a course of action...
>
>
> Lester
> Never. Stop. Reading. The. Rules.  ;-) yay!
>
> P.S. By the way, who's in for some beers at the Club Underground, Dong
> Khoi
> St. today? The Olympic torch parade will pass by there during the happy
> hour
> (6-7PM). Don't forget to wear your Tibet shirt! ;-)
>
>
>
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 13:30:58 +0700
From: Lester Sualog 
Subject: Re: [SUC] "READ THE RULES" campaign + Olympic torch beers
To: Jon Dillingham , Saigon Ultimate Club
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i got a few emails from members of the list serve having the same  
timing and route so there might be some truth in it.

i have a jersey called Tibets. it is an open (men's) team in japan.  
will see how it goes. i do not encourage nor the club is collective  
about this, but just be responsible.

sports + happy hour beers = world peace.

On Apr 29, 2008, at 1:17 PM, Jon Dillingham wrote:

> how do you know the torch will pass by there? everyone says the  
> route is a secret
>
> is anyone really going to wear Tibet shirts?
>
> On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 9:55 AM, Lester Sualog 
> > wrote:
> Good one Vu! I'm all for this.
> FYI below --
>
> There are two major types of governing rules if you play on grass/  
> turf:
> 1. UPA rules - we are now on the 11th edition. This is a must read  
> if you
> play in the international invitational team or hat tournaments (i.e.
> including the Singapore tourney).
> 2. WFDF rules - memorize or die, but only if you play at Worlds.
>
> There is also one official governing set of rules if you play on the  
> beach:
> 1. BULA rules - get into this if you go to Boracay, Paganello, World  
> Beach,
> etc.
>
> By the way, did the SUC form an information/ education unit already  
> during
> the Black Cat dinner meeting some ages ago? They should get on top  
> of this
> to do the translation and plan a course of action...
>
>
> Lester
> Never. Stop. Reading. The. Rules.  ;-) yay!
>
> P.S. By the way, who's in for some beers at the Club Underground,  
> Dong Khoi
> St. today? The Olympic torch parade will pass by there during the  
> happy hour
> (6-7PM). Don't forget to wear your Tibet shirt! ;-)
>
>
>
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 13:56:30 +0700
From: "Vinh, Cu Truong" 
Subject: Re: [SUC] "READ THE RULES" campaign
To: "Sarah Cunnian" , "Trung, Phan Ha"

Cc: Nguyen Vu , ufos at saigon-ultimate.com
Message-ID:
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

'READ THE RULES'
Cu Truong Vinh
kyota2904 at yahoo.com
0907771956

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -  - 
Vinh, Cu Truong - BCOM sem 4
Email: s3160862 at rmit.edu.vn
Mobile: 0907771956
Home: (08) 9894481
Ultimate Frisbee Club 
RMIT International University
Saigon South Campus
702 Nguyen Van Linh Blvd,
Tan Phong Ward, District 7
Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam

________________________________

From: ufos-bounces at saigon-ultimate.com on behalf of Sarah Cunnian
Sent: Tue 4/29/2008 9:20 AM
To: Trung, Phan Ha
Cc: Nguyen Vu; ufos at saigon-ultimate.com
Subject: Re: [SUC] "READ THE RULES" campaign

Ohhh mr. Tattoo good call.. count me in.. I think I should learn some rules..

Sarah Cunnian
scunnian at gmail.com 
0936545102

On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 8:12 AM, Trung, Phan Ha  wrote:

 ^^ i also agree with that " READ THE RULES

 Phan Ha Trung
 zankita14 at yahoo.com
 0909382867

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